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Python Super-High balance for months now has only been Wells Fargo Private client has anyone else had this same output whenever ordered? I don't think its worse than the other private client type banks bit its weird idk, at times i'd prefer a mix of other banks and other programs.
realest fucking shit ever said LOL. I don't even think they do anything else atp i think niggas just only get WPC.
 

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Yeah true the high balance cards don't really leverage the CPC benefits like the super-high balance do, its the only one which will give you more than the promised cashout value stated by python out of all of them. I think most of the hype around chase really has to do with the fact that it can be cashed out fully using the overnight method on a high balance card, almost no other bank does that...
mf the chase high balance doesn't even need CPC to be effective. Almost no one gets CPC and its not even possible to have a chase private client fall into the high-balance parameters in the first place wtf are u idiots in this forum talking about ur larping ur ass off.

If your even on private banking then ur a multi millionaire u wouldn't even be on high balance only super-high. ur prolly just a noob buyer acting like you have skin in this game.
 

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mf the chase high balance doesn't even need CPC to be effective. Almost no one gets CPC and its not even possible to have a chase private client fall into the high-balance parameters in the first place wtf are u idiots in this forum talking about ur larping ur ass off.

If your even on private banking then ur a multi millionaire u wouldn't even be on high balance only super-high. ur prolly just a noob buyer acting like you have skin in this game.
Lol u act like all CPC users are going to be primary cards, sometimes it can be the account under said master user for their kids or wife and they have lower limits for debit card credit but are still considered CPC. So duh you can have CPC cards that are high-balance fitting lol.

Idek wtf ur talking about I have probably as much if not more skin in the game then u fucking hoe. Everyone on this fucking forum is a "erm-actually" type of motherfucker shit is so annoying yall so fucking gay.

Get rich and stop fucking arguing.
 

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Lol u act like all CPC users are going to be primary cards, sometimes it can be the account under said master user for their kids or wife and they have lower limits for debit card credit but are still considered CPC. So duh you can have CPC cards that are high-balance fitting lol.

Idek wtf ur talking about I have probably as much if not more skin in the game then u fucking hoe. Everyone on this fucking forum is a "erm-actually" type of motherfucker shit is so annoying yall so fucking gay.

Get rich and stop fucking arguing.
ur so dumb lol
 

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Ah so like a predictive analytics system to fill in the P2P gaps when the demand goes up... nice. May I ask for instance on rough estimates what have they been on average for the year of 2026 (external versus internal), external basically meaning the following:

INTERNAL
EXTERNAL
P2P SKIMMING OPERATION​
AFFILIATE DATA​
INTERNALLY ACQUIRED​

I think this would be interesting to look at for myself and other retail buyers, soley because we want to make sure the quality standards stay up to par.
I've seen pythons response to this but at this point i doubt more than 1% of their data is even internally acquired. I've done deep research on all of their docs and like just the general customer growth since the empire market and DNM days.

There's zero doubt in my mind that they never actually scaled up their internally acquired data in the slightest mostly because they have always been super duper risk adverse thats why they are still around and not captured by the feds yet after all of these years and their operations only got bigger. They opened P2P to really derisk themselves from capture last time i spoke to the CEO on the empire market direct messages they said their internal operation before P2P was only 6 people, and back then i think they were selling like something like 500 cards a week or something and could barely hold on.

I think they don't even use their internal ops now and just rely on P2P they have bad customer support because they don't scale up their personell count because they are too scared of the feds and shit so yeah imo its all P2P and Affiliate Data. The whole internal thingy is completely outdated.
 

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Highly doubt they ever will if anything they'll probably shorten the amount of cards regular retailers can buy and the crude amount of cards they can order, people will probably max out at 1 card come the next few years there has been like a derisking thing post COVID where the retailers just aren't escalating to P2P at the ratio python wants them to.

That will lead to a decoupling of their supply and demand matrix that they have pointed out earlier with their data distribution sequences and stuff. So like you'll never get the same level of innovation or investment on their end for those higher cards tbh, I just don't see it happening for retailers.

The only thing they keep evolving is the P2P offering and making it more attractive. I think they will just stick with the current offerings but lower the amount that can be ordered.
We are currently in development of another retail option card that will be higher than the super-high balance card that will go for about $1.2k USD per card with a per week order limit of 2.

We just don't have the time for R&D and development that we used to have when we made our initial product array hence why we haven't dropped new stuff for retail clients. We are back to focusing on it and having skimmers out at some point, its more just a problem with our suppliers as many of them consistently get arrested or problems in their respective countries.

We know theres some individuals that will never make the jump to P2P as theres some users that have been buying from us since 2017 who have become millionaires at this point from being retail clients, we have equalized the supply and demand deficit so it seems like right now is the best time to start releasing new products.
 

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mf the chase high balance doesn't even need CPC to be effective. Almost no one gets CPC and its not even possible to have a chase private client fall into the high-balance parameters in the first place wtf are u idiots in this forum talking about ur larping ur ass off.

If your even on private banking then ur a multi millionaire u wouldn't even be on high balance only super-high. ur prolly just a noob buyer acting like you have skin in this game.
The CPC is only for Super-high Balance cards, only in extremely rare scenarios less than 1% of the time is a CPC card a child card meaning that its a limit rated card under the same account, most the time the rich person will just make a second account for their wife or child and transfer accordingly or give them a credit card (which we don't use data from).
 

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I've seen pythons response to this but at this point i doubt more than 1% of their data is even internally acquired. I've done deep research on all of their docs and like just the general customer growth since the empire market and DNM days.

There's zero doubt in my mind that they never actually scaled up their internally acquired data in the slightest mostly because they have always been super duper risk adverse thats why they are still around and not captured by the feds yet after all of these years and their operations only got bigger. They opened P2P to really derisk themselves from capture last time i spoke to the CEO on the empire market direct messages they said their internal operation before P2P was only 6 people, and back then i think they were selling like something like 500 cards a week or something and could barely hold on.

I think they don't even use their internal ops now and just rely on P2P they have bad customer support because they don't scale up their personell count because they are too scared of the feds and shit so yeah imo its all P2P and Affiliate Data. The whole internal thingy is completely outdated.
This assessment is correct regarding our internal acquisition schema for the most part, P2P has fully taken over. We keep the same team for privacy reasons as you have stated.

Fair assessment and overall take.
 

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Sure understandable.

Something that you have to understand on that front is that, just because the Mid-Balance Card is not the most popular card for our retail operation, does not mean that the data type has no intrinsic value, we have lines of wholesale data buyers that buy mid-balance data from us at $150-$160 / dump data distribution with ease if we can't sell them retail, so they are not worthless.

The majority of our retail operation is inherently top-heavy, meaning people might start with the mid-balance card (spend $250 or $400 to test it out) then rapidly scale to the Super-High Balance Card at 2 cards per week.

High-Balance Card is our most popular for new buyers aswell as in general, and it takes up the majority of our affiliate spend for data acquisition, despite the fact that theres more pressure for that data type, we don't reward P2P members that get more data under that type because we can still buy that data on the open market for around $200 to encode the card with from other data suppliers if we don't have it instock.

If all of a sudden the high-balance card data started to fetch more on the open market, then we would consider giving SR and other privileges to people that acquire more of that card type. We kinda let the open market decide data pricing, and reward accordingly.

Therefore as of right now, we give SR to the individuals with alot of volume specifically ones that get alot of mid-balance cards because despite a lower profit margin per sale, they bring us far more data to resale wholesale which inherently makes us more money, thus we give them SR and privileges.

If High-Balance data started to fetch a premium we would then given privelges and benefits to P2P members to get more so that we can alter the market prices internally so we can still sell the retail version for $400 USD a card.

Make sense?
How about the brazil market where everyone is just crowded around one area for skimming how does the SR work there? seen some people in the buyers groupchat complaining about that.
 

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