Product Release: Cloned Cards (Physical & Shipped) [👑 PYTHON KINGDOM 👑]

[Python Cards]

telegram link is expired, also do you have cards working in Canada?

Telegram link is operating and working fine, please be sure to check your application. Cards work in Canada you just need to purchase the International Card.

 

[Annonkurt]

I've been a long term buyer (and lurker lol) of python cards. Their whole operation is fully reliant on whatever the P2P people or gangs want to do, because they can't sell the retail cards to people otherwise.

Most people are going to want cards with high native atm limits for the most parts so you'll see all their P2P clients hover around the Chase cards typically and other high value atm cashout cards, whatever bank branch gives highest returns in US or UK will get preferential treatment. US bank also doesn't have that many branches outside of certain cities so, if ur in a city with alot of those banks then maybe they'll become more concentrated in that area when u order retail if US bank increases the ATM limits at site.

That's kinda why the chase high balance card is also the most popular and their most sold card too bcuz demand and supply meet on both the retail side and their backend data supplier side.

High-balance cards in general are like their core product regardless of the brand so it doesn't surprise me that this is the case tbh. The P2P guys don't even really pioritize the super-high balance, inside of the python cards buyer program Groupchat all of the people that say they are apart of the P2P take the high balance data and send in a "SR" or "Special Request" to python cards in order to be able to take the high balance data for themselves and not use the super-high despite the fact that the super-high has much more money in order to cashout.

Is it because super-high balance too hard to cashout at a higher scale? so they instead just leave extra stock for the retailer people? thats what i dont understand maybe its some sort of systemic risk idk

 

[Zgaiosn]

High-balance cards in general are like their core product regardless of the brand so it doesn't surprise me that this is the case tbh. The P2P guys don't even really pioritize the super-high balance, inside of the python cards buyer program Groupchat all of the people that say they are apart of the P2P take the high balance data and send in a "SR" or "Special Request" to python cards in order to be able to take the high balance data for themselves and not use the super-high despite the fact that the super-high has much more money in order to cashout.

Is it because super-high balance too hard to cashout at a higher scale? so they instead just leave extra stock for the retailer people? thats what i dont understand maybe its some sort of systemic risk idk

When u got a team full of like 10 runners or some shit cashing out super-high balance cards is hard as shit bcuz u can't get the full balance seamlessly from one ATM and depending on the actual country u in u can't even take out that much because the ATM wont even have enough cash. You almost have to do money orders or do higher risk in-shop shit to get the rest of the money off of it.

High-balance card u can either adopt the midnight method just with higher limits on it or u can go the TRAD route like they got in the FAQ and get the rest out via Western Union or postal money order. It gives added flexibility and witt alot of high balance cards depending on how they rate it from a premiums perpspective u can make like $250k/mo with ease as a lower scale crime group witt just more cards per runner.

Super-high cards ion think make sense when u got hella runners tryna move money quick and not get caught by investigators, when u taking that much money from the banks as a crime group systemically, the risk of getting caught is high as shit.

Super-high makes sense when u an individual cuz u got hella time and shit to actually manage it and cash it out the reccomended way

 

[dinhgianam]

Agreed, i went to prison for 3 years or so and came back after buying from them on Empire Market back in the day, def more corporate now, the CEO doesn't answer messages its these support workers instead now.

you got caught cashing out at the ATM?

 

[sparkie188]

you got caught cashing out at the ATM?

Na I was selling drugs off to the side lol, but yeh if you get caught with the ATM it would be a fed case i'd be cooked.

 

[Annonkurt]

When u got a team full of like 10 runners or some shit cashing out super-high balance cards is hard as shit bcuz u can't get the full balance seamlessly from one ATM and depending on the actual country u in u can't even take out that much because the ATM wont even have enough cash. You almost have to do money orders or do higher risk in-shop shit to get the rest of the money off of it.

High-balance card u can either adopt the midnight method just with higher limits on it or u can go the TRAD route like they got in the FAQ and get the rest out via Western Union or postal money order. It gives added flexibility and witt alot of high balance cards depending on how they rate it from a premiums perpspective u can make like $250k/mo with ease as a lower scale crime group witt just more cards per runner.

Super-high cards ion think make sense when u got hella runners tryna move money quick and not get caught by investigators, when u taking that much money from the banks as a crime group systemically, the risk of getting caught is high as shit.

Super-high makes sense when u an individual cuz u got hella time and shit to actually manage it and cash it out the reccomended way

wtf is the SR rate in regards to the % amount that the P2P data suppliers can take off of the table relative to what they actually acquired though? bcuz I would think python cards would run out of high balances and have stock outages all the time like they did back in 2024 but they seem to always have stock available so idk if ur theory even holds...

 

[momuhopa]

wtf is the SR rate in regards to the % amount that the P2P data suppliers can take off of the table relative to what they actually acquired though? bcuz I would think python cards would run out of high balances and have stock outages all the time like they did back in 2024 but they seem to always have stock available so idk if ur theory even holds...

I'm pretty sure their SR is no higher than 60-70% in order to stay sustainable given that the amount of cards each distributor can acquire is generally going to be mostly mid-balance and then lower high balance data points, and the lowest being the super-high.

Going above those rates would make it impossible for them to have a retail operation if their actual diagram holds.

 

[AmsterdamsFinest]

I'm pretty sure their SR is no higher than 60-70% in order to stay sustainable given that the amount of cards each distributor can acquire is generally going to be mostly mid-balance and then lower high balance data points, and the lowest being the super-high.

Going above those rates would make it impossible for them to have a retail operation if their actual diagram holds.

Meh if u check their audit they released back in their 2020 case study, P2P was only like 73% of their overall data inflows and they have flexibility on internaly acquire data and affiliate data.

Given they amount of guys that went rouge from P2P and now have their own shops that sell data, you can imagine now that like 6 years later they will just subsidize the missing high balance data with internally acquire data or affiliate data for the domestic cards, and then for the international card versions they would prolly only use the affiliate acquire data.

I just think they lowered the P2P reliance and simply use it as a way to lower their average data acquisition costs in terms of CC dumps data, thats kinda how they anchor their prices so low nowadays despite them saying they were gonna raise the mid-balance price multiple times at this point.

They never have outages anymore like they did back in the Empire market days because they aren't P2P reliant its just apart of their ecosystem. Given how many clone card sellers there are now, they are def selling more of their datastacks relative to what they did in the past too.

 

[Annonkurt]

I'm pretty sure their SR is no higher than 60-70% in order to stay sustainable given that the amount of cards each distributor can acquire is generally going to be mostly mid-balance and then lower high balance data points, and the lowest being the super-high.

Going above those rates would make it impossible for them to have a retail operation if their actual diagram holds.

Yeah I agree with you here. Do you think they still sell mostly mid balance cards to this day?

Everyone here at least on this forum is already kinda hip to the fact that the High-Balance card is kinda the only card worth buying at this point. Mid-balance is a shit card even when starting out.

Can't imagine most their customers are top weighted, I'd presume given international clients and lower purchasing powers and currency exchanges most people just buy the High Balance Card.

 

[momuhopa]

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Meh if u check their audit they released back in their 2020 case study, P2P was only like 73% of their overall data inflows and they have flexibility on internaly acquire data and affiliate data.

Given they amount of guys that went rouge from P2P and now have their own shops that sell data, you can imagine now that like 6 years later they will just subsidize the missing high balance data with internally acquire data or affiliate data for the domestic cards, and then for the international card versions they would prolly only use the affiliate acquire data.

I just think they lowered the P2P reliance and simply use it as a way to lower their average data acquisition costs in terms of CC dumps data, thats kinda how they anchor their prices so low nowadays despite them saying they were gonna raise the mid-balance price multiple times at this point.

They never have outages anymore like they did back in the Empire market days because they aren't P2P reliant its just apart of their ecosystem. Given how many clone card sellers there are now, they are def selling more of their datastacks relative to what they did in the past too.

I recently asked Python on their buyers community groupchat IRC, they said that it completely changes and is reflexive completely on demand, it can go up or down randomly all based on whatever the ongoing demand is and theres no set ratios anymore like they put up on their 2020 schematic.

Python Cards ceo said that they have been using AI based demand indicators based on their P2P clients last local data inflows to predict which data (High-Balance, Mid-Balance, or Super-High Balance), they are going to bring in from skimming and which data they will SR, and then bid for other data accordingly.

So I guess that we are both wrong lol

 

[AmsterdamsFinest]

I recently asked Python on their buyers community groupchat IRC, they said that it completely changes and is reflexive completely on demand, it can go up or down randomly all based on whatever the ongoing demand is and theres no set ratios anymore like they put up on their 2020 schematic.

Python Cards ceo said that they have been using AI based demand indicators based on their P2P clients last local data inflows to predict which data (High-Balance, Mid-Balance, or Super-High Balance), they are going to bring in from skimming and which data they will SR, and then bid for other data accordingly.

So I guess that we are both wrong lol

thats litterally what i insinuated inside of my last post u just responded to LOL

 

[Zgaiosn]

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Meh if u check their audit they released back in their 2020 case study, P2P was only like 73% of their overall data inflows and they have flexibility on internaly acquire data and affiliate data.

Given they amount of guys that went rouge from P2P and now have their own shops that sell data, you can imagine now that like 6 years later they will just subsidize the missing high balance data with internally acquire data or affiliate data for the domestic cards, and then for the international card versions they would prolly only use the affiliate acquire data.

I just think they lowered the P2P reliance and simply use it as a way to lower their average data acquisition costs in terms of CC dumps data, thats kinda how they anchor their prices so low nowadays despite them saying they were gonna raise the mid-balance price multiple times at this point.

They never have outages anymore like they did back in the Empire market days because they aren't P2P reliant its just apart of their ecosystem. Given how many clone card sellers there are now, they are def selling more of their datastacks relative to what they did in the past too.

mfs are not still using that shit their shit is completely different these days bro. Python cards CEO litterally destined themselves to fund and build their own competition at this point thru P2P. I doubt if you were to ask and audit them P2P prolly don't even account for half of these niggas data at this point, they be straight up just buying from niggas that leeched off P2P then said fuck it ima just be my own data distributor and they just buy that shit back with cash instead of splitting the weight like they say on the P2P page and shit.

 

[AmsterdamsFinest]

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mfs are not still using that shit their shit is completely different these days bro. Python cards CEO litterally destined themselves to fund and build their own competition at this point thru P2P. I doubt if you were to ask and audit them P2P prolly don't even account for half of these niggas data at this point, they be straight up just buying from niggas that leeched off P2P then said fuck it ima just be my own data distributor and they just buy that shit back with cash instead of splitting the weight like they say on the P2P page and shit.

Lol yeah ig its prolly a clusterfuck haha

 

[Python Cards]

High-balance cards in general are like their core product regardless of the brand so it doesn't surprise me that this is the case tbh. The P2P guys don't even really pioritize the super-high balance, inside of the python cards buyer program Groupchat all of the people that say they are apart of the P2P take the high balance data and send in a "SR" or "Special Request" to python cards in order to be able to take the high balance data for themselves and not use the super-high despite the fact that the super-high has much more money in order to cashout.

Is it because super-high balance too hard to cashout at a higher scale? so they instead just leave extra stock for the retailer people? thats what i dont understand maybe its some sort of systemic risk idk

There are some critical things that I would like to state.

The High-Balance Card is our most popular card both amongst retail buyers and the P2P distributors. The primary reason is because the Super-High Balance Cashout method is very difficult to execute on third world and second world countries, and it has a higher risk profile upon execution due to the fact that $8K USD+ in many of these countries sets off alarms and is multiple months salary. Using money transfer services and buying products in-store in reasonable times due to price differences in-stores makes it unreasonable for most P2P and Retail Clients.

The High-Balance Card is also the most popular amongst entry-level first-time retail customers as for most they can't use the mid-balance card outside of the US and other non 24/7 countries to cashout the rest of the balance. The mid-balance card uses a "midnight reset" method that makes it only optimal to cashout once a few minutes before midnight and once a few minutes after midnight.

Lastly, the SR is only limited to the top producers in P2P, the majority of P2P users do not get those privileges, the majority of the criminal syndicates that get SR denominations and can choose which clones they receive give us thousands of data points a week, and have a team of 30+ individuals. 95% of P2P skimming network individuals do not have these privileges, however its important to recognize that P2P is not pareto distributed in terms of data inflows.

The teams that do SR generally do take all of the high-balance supply, but this works out fine because the biggest syndicates generally operate in second and third world countries, whereas the rest of the individuals are in more developed countries but with smaller teams.

 

[Python Cards]

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Meh if u check their audit they released back in their 2020 case study, P2P was only like 73% of their overall data inflows and they have flexibility on internaly acquire data and affiliate data.

Given they amount of guys that went rouge from P2P and now have their own shops that sell data, you can imagine now that like 6 years later they will just subsidize the missing high balance data with internally acquire data or affiliate data for the domestic cards, and then for the international card versions they would prolly only use the affiliate acquire data.

I just think they lowered the P2P reliance and simply use it as a way to lower their average data acquisition costs in terms of CC dumps data, thats kinda how they anchor their prices so low nowadays despite them saying they were gonna raise the mid-balance price multiple times at this point.

They never have outages anymore like they did back in the Empire market days because they aren't P2P reliant its just apart of their ecosystem. Given how many clone card sellers there are now, they are def selling more of their datastacks relative to what they did in the past too.

We are somewhat using this structure still, however we have an exponential demand curve and the P2P follows it, meaning that the more retail customers that we get, equates to having more P2P members. However sometimes the curves don't equalize and they go off track but then come back to the trend, so we have AI now that calculates this and runs auto purchases from our exterior distributors and markets to fufill the data gap or auction it off to either darkweb sellers or our internal backend market.

 

[john62]

is python cards legit ? can someone show me proof i only see reviews on here and no where else .

 

[billiehoolo]

is python cards legit ? can someone show me proof i only see reviews on here and no where else .

asking this in 2026 is crazy lol

 

[AmsterdamsFinest]

We are somewhat using this structure still, however we have an exponential demand curve and the P2P follows it, meaning that the more retail customers that we get, equates to having more P2P members. However sometimes the curves don't equalize and they go off track but then come back to the trend, so we have AI now that calculates this and runs auto purchases from our exterior distributors and markets to fufill the data gap or auction it off to either darkweb sellers or our internal backend market.

Ah so like a predictive analytics system to fill in the P2P gaps when the demand goes up... nice. May I ask for instance on rough estimates what have they been on average for the year of 2026 (external versus internal), external basically meaning the following:

INTERNAL​	EXTERNAL​
P2P SKIMMING OPERATION​	AFFILIATE DATA​
INTERNALLY ACQUIRED​

I think this would be interesting to look at for myself and other retail buyers, soley because we want to make sure the quality standards stay up to par.

 

[Annonkurt]

There are some critical things that I would like to state.

The High-Balance Card is our most popular card both amongst retail buyers and the P2P distributors. The primary reason is because the Super-High Balance Cashout method is very difficult to execute on third world and second world countries, and it has a higher risk profile upon execution due to the fact that $8K USD+ in many of these countries sets off alarms and is multiple months salary. Using money transfer services and buying products in-store in reasonable times due to price differences in-stores makes it unreasonable for most P2P and Retail Clients.

The High-Balance Card is also the most popular amongst entry-level first-time retail customers as for most they can't use the mid-balance card outside of the US and other non 24/7 countries to cashout the rest of the balance. The mid-balance card uses a "midnight reset" method that makes it only optimal to cashout once a few minutes before midnight and once a few minutes after midnight.

Lastly, the SR is only limited to the top producers in P2P, the majority of P2P users do not get those privileges, the majority of the criminal syndicates that get SR denominations and can choose which clones they receive give us thousands of data points a week, and have a team of 30+ individuals. 95% of P2P skimming network individuals do not have these privileges, however its important to recognize that P2P is not pareto distributed in terms of data inflows.

The teams that do SR generally do take all of the high-balance supply, but this works out fine because the biggest syndicates generally operate in second and third world countries, whereas the rest of the individuals are in more developed countries but with smaller teams.

When you say that P2P is not "Pareto Distributed" are you referring to just volume of data collected? or is that reffering to like a weighted system that decides which cards are worth more either on a retail or cashout side. Meaning I guess with your statement, being that the "High-Balance Card is the most popular entry-level first time buyers", that the people that acquire the most High-Balance cards would be inherently more important than the mid-balance card suppliers in P2P or just be ranked on a higher grade.

Because if you say that the most "important" data suppliers have the most volume, I'm guessing the syndicates primarily get mid-balance cards compared to the high balance cards, as the avg person amougnst these second and third world countries would either fall in the mid-balance or below area when convertted to USD. Why do those people get SR priveleges whent he smaller teams probally get more High and super-high balance cards statistically because of relative incomes.

That's where i think the SR thing you guys have is fucked up because it should be based on the producers that get this highest QUALITY not QUANTITY that get SR privelleges.

Lets be real if someone is for instance "testing" the cards just to see if they are legit or something, they might buy the Mid-Balance Card first, but after that they are going to just buy the maximum limit of high and super-high balance cards, twice a week at the maximum limit. Even though as discussed like a hundred + times on this thread, everyone knows to not start with the Mid-Balance card and to start with the High-Balance card for obvious reasons, thats still probally the case with most prospective buyers that are new to dealing with you guys.

I just think the incentivization structure is on its head backwards, and I don't see what u ugys do with that excess supply of mid-balance cards.

 

[Zgaiosn]

When you say that P2P is not "Pareto Distributed" are you referring to just volume of data collected? or is that reffering to like a weighted system that decides which cards are worth more either on a retail or cashout side. Meaning I guess with your statement, being that the "High-Balance Card is the most popular entry-level first time buyers", that the people that acquire the most High-Balance cards would be inherently more important than the mid-balance card suppliers in P2P or just be ranked on a higher grade.

Because if you say that the most "important" data suppliers have the most volume, I'm guessing the syndicates primarily get mid-balance cards compared to the high balance cards, as the avg person amougnst these second and third world countries would either fall in the mid-balance or below area when convertted to USD. Why do those people get SR priveleges whent he smaller teams probally get more High and super-high balance cards statistically because of relative incomes.

That's where i think the SR thing you guys have is fucked up because it should be based on the producers that get this highest QUALITY not QUANTITY that get SR privelleges.

Lets be real if someone is for instance "testing" the cards just to see if they are legit or something, they might buy the Mid-Balance Card first, but after that they are going to just buy the maximum limit of high and super-high balance cards, twice a week at the maximum limit. Even though as discussed like a hundred + times on this thread, everyone knows to not start with the Mid-Balance card and to start with the High-Balance card for obvious reasons, thats still probally the case with most prospective buyers that are new to dealing with you guys.

I just think the incentivization structure is on its head backwards, and I don't see what u ugys do with that excess supply of mid-balance cards.

Ngl u prolly onto sumn lol