Drug dealer vs Fraudster

[MikeCarder]

I have been a dealer for over 20 years. I have been doing this IRL and have on the Markets since 2014. I have smuggled across international borders distributed in almost every state at some point. The money is generally good but it is hard work and the risk of getting a gun in your face or your door kicked in has always been high. Recently I have noticed the drug scene is paying less while the risks do not seem to be reduced. There are new dealers sprouting up everywhere!

I have been thinking to go into fraud. It is not that different as far as opsec and many of the same methods are used for both fraud and dealing.
Dealers that are smart do not use credit cards while traveling with product.
We use burner phones that get thrown out regularly.
We do not discuss our shit on social media.
We try to blend in when traveling with a backpack full of shit.
We use programs like tails or vm to login to the markets.
We use drops to get our product if we do not have local hookups.
We have to cash out our crypto while not giving ourselves up to the IRS.
We cant spend our funds on stupid shit that draws attention.
We can use GIMP like a pro for packaging and labels.

This is what smart dealers do not what all dealers do.

I am tired of dealing with lower profits and higher customer expectations.
If I do not ship 3 or 4 times a week custies complain, like Im fucking amazon.
This does not feel like I can work in my own time and make choices.
It feels like Im here to serve these whiny fuckers!

So, I have been reading hacktown and want to join but the payment system seems fucked and I can not get the membership working.

I have read teams work best but also read that all you fraud guys are fuckers!

If anyone has a solid crew and wants a new guy I can prove my credentials but only if you can prove yours.

What are your thoughts dread?
Where should I head from here?

Im thinking IRS fraud?
Carding big ticket items?

 

[NBAYoungCarder]

So you have been a drug dealer?
Did you launder your profits aswell or how do you managed your earnings?

 

[MikeCarder]

So you have been a drug dealer?
Did you launder your profits aswell or how do you managed your earnings?

With the right business and accountant you can clean the money and not pay much taxes!
And yes pay your fucking taxes!

 

[NBAYoungCarder]

With the right business and accountant you can clean the money and not pay much taxes!
And yes pay your fucking taxes!

That is what i wanted to know.
Why don't you launder money for other people and you get a percentage?
Every fraudcrew needs it at some point.

 

[MikeCarder]

Thats a great idea. I guess the trust issue is a concern. How would I prove trust yet stay annoymous? Seems tough.

That is what i wanted to know.
Why don't you launder money for other people and you get a percentage?
Every fraudcrew needs it at some point.

 

[cardingexpert177]

Put the effort to learn how to spam so yu never run out of work, collab w people who can cash and then learn to cashout yourself

 

[MikeCarder]

I likes me some spam musubi. lol! Good tip though, I'll look into that. Im most interested in getting the banks, cc companies and Gov. These fucking slave drivers owe us! Im not to stoked about hitting up Grama unless FDIC is going to fix it for her.

Put the effort to learn how to spam so yu never run out of work, collab w people who can cash and then learn to cashout yourself

 

[cardingexpert177]

I likes me some spam musubi. lol! Good tip though, I'll look into that. Im most interested in getting the banks, cc companies and Gov. These fucking slave drivers owe us! Im not to stoked about hitting up Grama unless FDIC is going to fix it for her.

If they don't report it to the bank within 30 days yu can do it for them otp, put bank inna choke hold

 

[MikeCarder]

If they don't report it to the bank within 30 days yu can do it for them otp, put bank inna choke hold

So get granny then report it after you cash out? That is RobinHood as fuck!!!

 

[cardingexpert177]

So get granny then report it after you cash out? That is RobinHood as fuck!!!

Yea over the phone, just dont do no citi wires I do not think they refunding lol

 

[MikeCarder]

The greedy fuckers. They have money printed whenever they need it and wont help granny recover from the fraud they should be protecting her from.

 

[VictorBands98]

Yeah fishing is relativly lucrative and you can easily get 20 fullz a day and there is an open end ;D

 

[MikeCarder]

Yeah fishing is relativly lucrative and you can easily get 20 fullz a day and there is an open end ;D

Good idea

 

[Bornfrompain]

I do cashouts, I’m a loader, always looking for drop accounts. We could work together

 

[wbw509]

Let

I do cashouts, I’m a loader, always looking for drop accounts. We could work together

Let’s get it. I also have fulls with Ssn and Id photo allll day from work

 

[Bornfrompain]

Let

Let’s get it. I also have fulls with Ssn and Id photo allll day from work

Okay, I need Wells Fargo/chase/USAA account, 2yrs or more

 

[Rigdondick]

Hey brother, I did over 100k last month and I can def prove it. Clearly didn’t take that home but I’ve been building a team for 3 years and I’ve always wanted to step into an online situation. I can eliminate my digital footprint. I’m not ignorant and have been studying bins,Fullz,CPNs (most appealing for longevity), I got the best Flower and concentrates on the east coast and it all comes from far far west lol. Lmk how you wanna talk I got telegram.

 

[scalebalemail]

Hey brother, I did over 100k last month and I can def prove it. Clearly didn’t take that home but I’ve been building a team for 3 years and I’ve always wanted to step into an online situation. I can eliminate my digital footprint. I’m not ignorant and have been studying bins,Fullz,CPNs (most appealing for longevity), I got the best Flower and concentrates on the east coast and it all comes from far far west lol. Lmk how you wanna talk I got telegram.

u ever fuck with selln them fent pills?

 

[Elchapo701]

Soy distribuidor desde hace más de 20 años. He estado haciendo esto IRL y he estado en los Mercados desde 2014. He pasado de contrabando a través de las fronteras internacionales distribuidas en casi todos los estados en algún momento. El dinero generalmente es bueno, pero es un trabajo duro y el riesgo de que te apunten con un arma en la cara o te den una patada en la puerta siempre ha sido alto. Recientemente he notado que la escena de las drogas está pagando menos mientras que los riesgos no parecen reducirse. ¡Están surgiendo nuevos distribuidores por todas partes!

He estado pensando en entrar en fraude. No es tan diferente en cuanto a opsec y muchos de los mismos métodos se utilizan tanto para el fraude como para el trato.
Los distribuidores que son inteligentes no usan tarjetas de crédito mientras viajan con productos.
Usamos teléfonos desechables que se tiran con regularidad.
No discutimos nuestra mierda en las redes sociales.
Tratamos de pasar desapercibidos cuando viajamos con una mochila llena de mierda.
Usamos programas como tails o vm para iniciar sesión en los mercados.
Usamos gotas para obtener nuestro producto si no tenemos conexiones locales.
Tenemos que cobrar nuestra criptografía sin entregarnos al IRS.
No podemos gastar nuestros fondos en estupideces que llamen la atención.
Podemos usar GIMP como un profesional para empaques y etiquetas.

Esto es lo que hacen los distribuidores inteligentes, no lo que hacen todos los distribuidores.

Estoy cansado de lidiar con menores ganancias y mayores expectativas de los clientes.
Si no envío 3 o 4 veces a la semana, los custies se quejan, como si fuera Amazon.
Esto no se siente como que puedo trabajar en mi propio tiempo y tomar decisiones.
¡Se siente como si estuviera aquí para servir a estos hijos de puta quejumbrosos!

Entonces, he estado leyendo hacktown y quiero unirme, pero el sistema de pago parece jodido y no puedo hacer que la membresía funcione.

¡He leído que los equipos funcionan mejor, pero también he leído que todos ustedes, tipos de fraude, son unos hijos de puta!

Si alguien tiene un equipo sólido y quiere un chico nuevo, puedo probar mis credenciales, pero solo si puedes probar las tuyas.

¿Cuáles son tus pensamientos que temen?
¿Hacia dónde debo dirigirme desde aquí?

¿Estoy pensando en fraude del IRS?
¿Cardar artículos caros?

puedes vender drogas en la dark web sin arriesgar tanto y si quieres te puedo ayudar a lavar el dinero tengo negocios legales y podemos mover el dinero

 

[Elchapo701]

I have been a dealer for over 20 years. I have been doing this IRL and have on the Markets since 2014. I have smuggled across international borders distributed in almost every state at some point. The money is generally good but it is hard work and the risk of getting a gun in your face or your door kicked in has always been high. Recently I have noticed the drug scene is paying less while the risks do not seem to be reduced. There are new dealers sprouting up everywhere!

I have been thinking to go into fraud. It is not that different as far as opsec and many of the same methods are used for both fraud and dealing.
Dealers that are smart do not use credit cards while traveling with product.
We use burner phones that get thrown out regularly.
We do not discuss our shit on social media.
We try to blend in when traveling with a backpack full of shit.
We use programs like tails or vm to login to the markets.
We use drops to get our product if we do not have local hookups.
We have to cash out our crypto while not giving ourselves up to the IRS.
We cant spend our funds on stupid shit that draws attention.
We can use GIMP like a pro for packaging and labels.

This is what smart dealers do not what all dealers do.

I am tired of dealing with lower profits and higher customer expectations.
If I do not ship 3 or 4 times a week custies complain, like Im fucking amazon.
This does not feel like I can work in my own time and make choices.
It feels like Im here to serve these whiny fuckers!

So, I have been reading hacktown and want to join but the payment system seems fucked and I can not get the membership working.

I have read teams work best but also read that all you fraud guys are fuckers!

If anyone has a solid crew and wants a new guy I can prove my credentials but only if you can prove yours.

What are your thoughts dread?
Where should I head from here?

Im thinking IRS fraud?
Carding big ticket items?

you can sell drugs on the dark web without risking so much and if you want I can help you launder the money I have legal businesses and we can move the money