Personally I primarily use "expert services" to have the funds sent to me and I just have to do the cleaning work. When I was doing normal carding or "clone cards" like physical carding kinda like what python kingdom does. The most you'll make a year is like $100k-$145k because of the limitations. I make around a quarter million USD annually but primarily through R2D2 bank to crypto and a few other expert services. It really depends on how risky you want to go, theres some guys making alot more than me on this forum, so it really depends.