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Python Cards · May 18, 2026

AmsterdamsFinest said:
Ah so like a predictive analytics system to fill in the P2P gaps when the demand goes up... nice. May I ask for instance on rough estimates what have they been on average for the year of 2026 (external versus internal), external basically meaning the following:

INTERNAL
EXTERNAL
P2P SKIMMING OPERATION
AFFILIATE DATA
INTERNALLY ACQUIRED

I think this would be interesting to look at for myself and other retail buyers, soley because we want to make sure the quality standards stay up to par.

The volatility between each have been extremely dependent upon the demand and supply matrixes of retail buyers and the actual P2P growth. As stated before theres higher volatility on the P2P side, as we gain more P2P members they don't all scale to higher-end operations at the same time, generally they take years to progress to the levels in which they need to be for us to have a fluid 1:1 operation.

It would safe to say on media about 20%-40% will come from external sources depending on the gap between P2P and the retail, by the time that they intersect, theres generally a 6 month lag. On certain lower retail demand dates then it can easily be as low as 10% from external.

All depends on how the lagging indicators mix with the retail demands.

Python Cards · May 18, 2026

Annonkurt said:
When you say that P2P is not "Pareto Distributed" are you referring to just volume of data collected? or is that reffering to like a weighted system that decides which cards are worth more either on a retail or cashout side. Meaning I guess with your statement, being that the "High-Balance Card is the most popular entry-level first time buyers", that the people that acquire the most High-Balance cards would be inherently more important than the mid-balance card suppliers in P2P or just be ranked on a higher grade.

Because if you say that the most "important" data suppliers have the most volume, I'm guessing the syndicates primarily get mid-balance cards compared to the high balance cards, as the avg person amougnst these second and third world countries would either fall in the mid-balance or below area when convertted to USD. Why do those people get SR priveleges whent he smaller teams probally get more High and super-high balance cards statistically because of relative incomes.

That's where i think the SR thing you guys have is fucked up because it should be based on the producers that get this highest QUALITY not QUANTITY that get SR privelleges.

Lets be real if someone is for instance "testing" the cards just to see if they are legit or something, they might buy the Mid-Balance Card first, but after that they are going to just buy the maximum limit of high and super-high balance cards, twice a week at the maximum limit. Even though as discussed like a hundred + times on this thread, everyone knows to not start with the Mid-Balance card and to start with the High-Balance card for obvious reasons, thats still probally the case with most prospective buyers that are new to dealing with you guys.

I just think the incentivization structure is on its head backwards, and I don't see what u ugys do with that excess supply of mid-balance cards.

Sure understandable.

Something that you have to understand on that front is that, just because the Mid-Balance Card is not the most popular card for our retail operation, does not mean that the data type has no intrinsic value, we have lines of wholesale data buyers that buy mid-balance data from us at $150-$160 / dump data distribution with ease if we can't sell them retail, so they are not worthless.

The majority of our retail operation is inherently top-heavy, meaning people might start with the mid-balance card (spend $250 or $400 to test it out) then rapidly scale to the Super-High Balance Card at 2 cards per week.

High-Balance Card is our most popular for new buyers aswell as in general, and it takes up the majority of our affiliate spend for data acquisition, despite the fact that theres more pressure for that data type, we don't reward P2P members that get more data under that type because we can still buy that data on the open market for around $200 to encode the card with from other data suppliers if we don't have it instock.

If all of a sudden the high-balance card data started to fetch more on the open market, then we would consider giving SR and other privileges to people that acquire more of that card type. We kinda let the open market decide data pricing, and reward accordingly.

Therefore as of right now, we give SR to the individuals with alot of volume specifically ones that get alot of mid-balance cards because despite a lower profit margin per sale, they bring us far more data to resale wholesale which inherently makes us more money, thus we give them SR and privileges.

If High-Balance data started to fetch a premium we would then given privelges and benefits to P2P members to get more so that we can alter the market prices internally so we can still sell the retail version for $400 USD a card.

Make sense?

AmsterdamsFinest · May 18, 2026

Python Cards said:
The volatility between each have been extremely dependent upon the demand and supply matrixes of retail buyers and the actual P2P growth. As stated before theres higher volatility on the P2P side, as we gain more P2P members they don't all scale to higher-end operations at the same time, generally they take years to progress to the levels in which they need to be for us to have a fluid 1:1 operation.

It would safe to say on media about 20%-40% will come from external sources depending on the gap between P2P and the retail, by the time that they intersect, theres generally a 6 month lag. On certain lower retail demand dates then it can easily be as low as 10% from external.

All depends on how the lagging indicators mix with the retail demands.

Makes sense, thanks for all the extra insights you didn't have to even answer that. Greatly appreciated.

Ransom0day · May 18, 2026

Python Cards said:
There are some critical things that I would like to state.

The High-Balance Card is our most popular card both amongst retail buyers and the P2P distributors. The primary reason is because the Super-High Balance Cashout method is very difficult to execute on third world and second world countries, and it has a higher risk profile upon execution due to the fact that $8K USD+ in many of these countries sets off alarms and is multiple months salary. Using money transfer services and buying products in-store in reasonable times due to price differences in-stores makes it unreasonable for most P2P and Retail Clients.

The High-Balance Card is also the most popular amongst entry-level first-time retail customers as for most they can't use the mid-balance card outside of the US and other non 24/7 countries to cashout the rest of the balance. The mid-balance card uses a "midnight reset" method that makes it only optimal to cashout once a few minutes before midnight and once a few minutes after midnight.

Lastly, the SR is only limited to the top producers in P2P, the majority of P2P users do not get those privileges, the majority of the criminal syndicates that get SR denominations and can choose which clones they receive give us thousands of data points a week, and have a team of 30+ individuals. 95% of P2P skimming network individuals do not have these privileges, however its important to recognize that P2P is not pareto distributed in terms of data inflows.

The teams that do SR generally do take all of the high-balance supply, but this works out fine because the biggest syndicates generally operate in second and third world countries, whereas the rest of the individuals are in more developed countries but with smaller teams.

Lol once you have been in this game for a while with the clones u realize both the Mid-Balance and Super-High Balance cards are on the same footing with impracticality. Both of them are basically impossible to take the full balances out of even if u follow the FAQ Python gives in most countries its impractical, makes sense why the High-Balance is the most popular ig.

Gixxer69 · May 19, 2026

Ransom0day said:
Lol once you have been in this game for a while with the clones u realize both the Mid-Balance and Super-High Balance cards are on the same footing with impracticality. Both of them are basically impossible to take the full balances out of even if u follow the FAQ Python gives in most countries its impractical, makes sense why the High-Balance is the most popular ig.

literally thats what i've been doing rinse and repeat for about 2 years now, netting about $220k a year or so with minimal work. The super-high balance card is kinda impractical to cashout and ends up just contributing to ur costs if your in a non-developed country. Mid-Balance is a trainer card and not practical for scaling, 2 high balance cards a work is deadass all you need for financial prosperity lol

Ransom0day · May 19, 2026

Gixxer69 said:
literally thats what i've been doing rinse and repeat for about 2 years now, netting about $220k a year or so with minimal work. The super-high balance card is kinda impractical to cashout and ends up just contributing to ur costs if your in a non-developed country. Mid-Balance is a trainer card and not practical for scaling, 2 high balance cards a work is deadass all you need for financial prosperity lol

yeah I live in EU, but neighboring country is very prosperous so I buy one high-balance and one super-high balance a week and use the Super-high balance card in the richer area.

vjqrwihbofzubfwiubz · May 19, 2026

Ransom0day said:
yeah I live in EU, but neighboring country is very prosperous so I buy one high-balance and one super-high balance a week and use the Super-high balance card in the richer area.

How do you pay off the full amount of money from the High Balance Card and the Super High Balance Card? I'm also from the EU, so I'm interested.

Ransom0day · May 20, 2026

vjqrwihbofzubfwiubz said:
How do you pay off the full amount of money from the High Balance Card and the Super High Balance Card? I'm also from the EU, so I'm interested.

yeah the high-balance and super-high balance methods are on their FAQ, but for EU I use a bit of a altered strategy.

High-Balance strat:

1. I use the method that was for the Mid-Balance Card but for the High-Balance. I firstly go to the ATM before midnigh (11:50) and get out nearly a thousand euro (depends on the US forex), and then I wait a bit after and get another thousand euro after midnight (like 12:05 ). I live in Serbia so I use the Banca Intesa ATM for this depending on the card you can get up to 1500 EURO per day, most the time the card has just under 1000 euro limit per day.

2. The remainder is generally only about 1500 to 2000 EURO left on the balance, I go to Western Union or Moneygram with the custom engraved High-balance and just request to pay for it by card, the money I have either being sent to myself or to a friend. I use fake ID for this now for extra safety.

Super-high Balance Strat:

I travel by car to Italy, for this I dress very well and rich and do shopping for high value goods at Cartier or other expensive designer shops and resell. I find that transfering the necessary amount of funds via money transfer service ($4k+) is very risky as here in EU it is not like America and many of the money transfer services may require alot more ID randomly and its not always consistent. High value goods like gold and things like this are much easier to buy on card and proceed.

vjqrwihbofzubfwiubz · May 20, 2026

Ransom0day said:
yeah the high-balance and super-high balance methods are on their FAQ, but for EU I use a bit of a altered strategy.

High-Balance strat:

1. I use the method that was for the Mid-Balance Card but for the High-Balance. I firstly go to the ATM before midnigh (11:50) and get out nearly a thousand euro (depends on the US forex), and then I wait a bit after and get another thousand euro after midnight (like 12:05 ). I live in Serbia so I use the Banca Intesa ATM for this depending on the card you can get up to 1500 EURO per day, most the time the card has just under 1000 euro limit per day.

2. The remainder is generally only about 1500 to 2000 EURO left on the balance, I go to Western Union or Moneygram with the custom engraved High-balance and just request to pay for it by card, the money I have either being sent to myself or to a friend. I use fake ID for this now for extra safety.

Super-high Balance Strat:

I travel by car to Italy, for this I dress very well and rich and do shopping for high value goods at Cartier or other expensive designer shops and resell. I find that transfering the necessary amount of funds via money transfer service ($4k+) is very risky as here in EU it is not like America and many of the money transfer services may require alot more ID randomly and its not always consistent. High value goods like gold and things like this are much easier to buy on card and proceed.

Do you withdraw money directly from an ATM or do you go to the bank and withdraw money there? The option where I go directly to the ATM is much safer for me, but the only problem is that my ATM doesn't withdraw much money. Is it safe to withdraw money at a bank or even from an ATM located in a bank? (I'm asking this about the Mid-Balance card and the High-Balance card.)

Ransom0day · May 20, 2026

vjqrwihbofzubfwiubz said:
Do you withdraw money directly from an ATM or do you go to the bank and withdraw money there? The option where I go directly to the ATM is much safer for me, but the only problem is that my ATM doesn't withdraw much money. Is it safe to withdraw money at a bank or even from an ATM located in a bank? (I'm asking this about the Mid-Balance card and the High-Balance card.)

The Bank ATM have higher limit which makes it easier to cashout, so it depends but usually I go to the ones outside or inside of the bank. The ATM limit doesn't matter only the card limit does, you can continuously go back and forth on the same ATM at its maximum limit aslong as the card limit met.

adsfdavniuavsbuazvw · May 21, 2026

Ransom0day said:
yeah the high-balance and super-high balance methods are on their FAQ, but for EU I use a bit of a altered strategy.

High-Balance strat:

1. I use the method that was for the Mid-Balance Card but for the High-Balance. I firstly go to the ATM before midnigh (11:50) and get out nearly a thousand euro (depends on the US forex), and then I wait a bit after and get another thousand euro after midnight (like 12:05 ). I live in Serbia so I use the Banca Intesa ATM for this depending on the card you can get up to 1500 EURO per day, most the time the card has just under 1000 euro limit per day.

2. The remainder is generally only about 1500 to 2000 EURO left on the balance, I go to Western Union or Moneygram with the custom engraved High-balance and just request to pay for it by card, the money I have either being sent to myself or to a friend. I use fake ID for this now for extra safety.

Super-high Balance Strat:

I travel by car to Italy, for this I dress very well and rich and do shopping for high value goods at Cartier or other expensive designer shops and resell. I find that transfering the necessary amount of funds via money transfer service ($4k+) is very risky as here in EU it is not like America and many of the money transfer services may require alot more ID randomly and its not always consistent. High value goods like gold and things like this are much easier to buy on card and proceed.

koliko ja vidim na ovom forumu ima pun kurac balkanaca i rusa, brate mene je strah da me ne uhvate a koliko vidim i ti si narucivao od ovog lika i govoris da je lik legit.... iskreno koliko sam te skuzio koristis metodu reseta bankomata nakon ponoci a ostatak podignes preko western uniona, e sad da te pitam kako uopce provjeris jel ovaj vlasnik kartice otkazao karticu jer ako isplacujes pare preko western uniona to ne radis u ponoc nego cekas sutradan te kako uopce uspijes isplatit i jel stvarno imas tolko srece da vlasnik ne otkaze karticu prije nego sta stignes isplatit pare preko western uniona ili kako? brate nov sam u ovome

Python Cards · May 22, 2026

AmsterdamsFinest said:
Makes sense, thanks for all the extra insights you didn't have to even answer that. Greatly appreciated.

No worries @AmsterdamsFinest

Python Cards · May 22, 2026

Ransom0day said:
Lol once you have been in this game for a while with the clones u realize both the Mid-Balance and Super-High Balance cards are on the same footing with impracticality. Both of them are basically impossible to take the full balances out of even if u follow the FAQ Python gives in most countries its impractical, makes sense why the High-Balance is the most popular ig.

Yes High-Balance Card has ALWAYS been our recommended card according to FAQ.

Budget users tend to favor the Mid-Balance as its a way to test our services at an extremely affordable price point.

Python Cards · May 22, 2026

adsfdavniuavsbuazvw said:
koliko ja vidim na ovom forumu ima pun kurac balkanaca i rusa, brate mene je strah da me ne uhvate a koliko vidim i ti si narucivao od ovog lika i govoris da je lik legit.... iskreno koliko sam te skuzio koristis metodu reseta bankomata nakon ponoci a ostatak podignes preko western uniona, e sad da te pitam kako uopce provjeris jel ovaj vlasnik kartice otkazao karticu jer ako isplacujes pare preko western uniona to ne radis u ponoc nego cekas sutradan te kako uopce uspijes isplatit i jel stvarno imas tolko srece da vlasnik ne otkaze karticu prije nego sta stignes isplatit pare preko western uniona ili kako? brate nov sam u ovome

We actually answer this in the FAQ

adsfdavniuavsbuazvw · May 22, 2026

Python Cards said:
We actually answer this in the FAQ

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Bro, I understand all that, but I don't understand two things, the first thing I understand is how to check if the owner has canceled the card and the second thing I don't understand is, for example, if he pays off this high balance card on which there is, for example, 4,500 euros, and now he pays 3,000 euros through the ATM reset method at midnight, and he has to state another 1,500 euros, and now he has to wait the next day to pay off the balance at Western Union, and no one guarantees him that the owner will not cancel card

Python Cards · May 23, 2026

adsfdavniuavsbuazvw said:
Bro, I understand all that, but I don't understand two things, the first thing I understand is how to check if the owner has canceled the card and the second thing I don't understand is, for example, if he pays off this high balance card on which there is, for example, 4,500 euros, and now he pays 3,000 euros through the ATM reset method at midnight, and he has to state another 1,500 euros, and now he has to wait the next day to pay off the balance at Western Union, and no one guarantees him that the owner will not cancel card

The paper that comes with the card has the most recent balance check (AKA synapse), you can also balance inquiry (check the balance) of the card via the ATM which will give you a readout, this is NOT recommended as many banks give extra notifications to the end victim. The owner is only going to cancel the card post-malicious usage.

The method that your speaking of for cashout is not actually reccomended in the official FAQ, the midnight method only applies for the Mid-Balance Card, third party methods like the one stated above in the comment sections are third party for a reason. While it does get you the 3000 euros in cash during the reset (if physical cash is your preferred yield with no human interaction), then yes it leaves you with the burden of then having to do a Money Transfer at midnight, for some this might work if you have 24/hr a day Western Unions (some countries do), in other cases it won't work if you don't and it risks the user canceling the card in that downtime.

We reccomend in the FAQ to use the High-Balance card during daytime and NOT midnight. Granted our method cuts down the downtime substantially, this still comes with risks of cancellation even though its greatly reduced. There is no "Guarantees" in crime, everything is about risk mitigation, and the method in the FAQ lowers the risk mitigation substantially.

Alternatively, if you were to purchase a Mid-Balance Card, you wouldn't even have the flexibility to go with a 3rd party method. Hence why the High-Balance Card is generally our most popular.

bloodhater1337 · May 23, 2026

Annonkurt said:
wtf is the SR rate in regards to the % amount that the P2P data suppliers can take off of the table relative to what they actually acquired though? bcuz I would think python cards would run out of high balances and have stock outages all the time like they did back in 2024 but they seem to always have stock available so idk if ur theory even holds...

Do they also do SR via different card brands like CHASE or Wells Fargo for different card types regardless of balance classification? I think people were initially doing the SR by Chase specifically because chase was so OP compared to the other card brands domestically in the US.

Same thing happened with CHOARE for UK. Are they doing it by class or brand or both? if its by brand and card type im just going to spend the $35k and join P2P at this point lol Retail is loosing leverage in card quality lol

Annonkurt · May 24, 2026

bloodhater1337 said:
Do they also do SR via different card brands like CHASE or Wells Fargo for different card types regardless of balance classification? I think people were initially doing the SR by Chase specifically because chase was so OP compared to the other card brands domestically in the US.

Same thing happened with CHOARE for UK. Are they doing it by class or brand or both? if its by brand and card type im just going to spend the $35k and join P2P at this point lol Retail is loosing leverage in card quality lol

If ur in the buyers groupchat they are all saying that its by card level not brand anymore. There was some time between 2023-2025 they were doing it by Brand but that got cancelled because apparently python ceo said it was unfair. I think retailers like us are fine aslong as they don't cut the card supply limit from 2 card per week to one by then everyone is forced to P2P.

AmsterdamsFinest · May 25, 2026

Annonkurt said:
If ur in the buyers groupchat they are all saying that its by card level not brand anymore. There was some time between 2023-2025 they were doing it by Brand but that got cancelled because apparently python ceo said it was unfair. I think retailers like us are fine aslong as they don't cut the card supply limit from 2 card per week to one by then everyone is forced to P2P.

By brand would have people in outrage lol

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