Amazon / Google Store and other stores refunds - Please help

[FreeTJ]

Hello,
CURRENT SITUATION
I am currently stuck with low capital to start with.
I tried to get into kamesenin's group but it is just too expensive for me right now. On top of the price of the membership which is over 1k, I will have to spend 5-600 dollars per setup. As stripe is a numbers game, I will certainly be burning accounts in the process. So a couple accounts will go down in the worst case scenario before making money. Realistically, I will need 5k to get started in the stripe business.
For anyone with initial funds, payment processors are the holy grail (at least for me). You card your own shit and it is the road to long term income from fraud. And I encourage you to start with someone with experience like kamesenin, it will hasten your success.
I am also in touch with other guys like MoneyMover and others I don't want to cite as we are not yet working together.
CAPITAL BUILDING IDEA
In the meantime, I was looking into the amazon and google store refund scams to build my capital and get into payment processors.
So I have a couple of questions that I hope to find someone who can answer :
- Can we use our friends/relatives accounts for this type of scam?
- Is any chance (as little it can be) that an investigation can get started?
- Is the only safe way to do this at scale is to use giftcards, prepaid credit cards as a means for payment and drops to receive the products ?
I appreciate the time you guys are taking to read and help.
Where to buy these? There is someone in thebeehive.cc doing amazon and google store scams. There is also someone in empire JACKACK doing both of these plus many other stores. I didn't check for providers in Dream as it is really messy to search there and it seems that vendors can spam as many times as they want by adding the same offer multiple times to their store. I even saw some adding 50 times the same damn offer and as a result the search function becomes worthless.
Hope someone can help/guide.

 

[HellCatOG]

I can't answer the bulk of your questions, but as far as your second question goes, yes, investigations are common. If your account doesn't have legitimate orders, it raises a red flag. From my exp you want to have a few legitimate orders so you can start refunding uses different methods. Ofcourse that's only applicable if you're doing this yourself and not using someone elses services, like on beehive. I have no experience using someone elses services.

 

[HellCatNPC]

1., Yeah, but theres a good chance youll burn the account, and have pissed off friends/relatives who can't access their amazon anymore.
2. Meh, probably if you did it on a large scale... On a single consumer scale, i doubt it.
3. fordrops you can just use amazon locker for amazon, if its in your area. For payment, prepaids are best, because if the refund falls through, you can try again by disputing th charge with your prepaid. (or if the refund goes through, you can double dip afterwards by disputing the payment after the product is replaced)

 

[1942Scammer]

1., Yeah, but theres a good chance youll burn the account, and have pissed off friends/relatives who can't access their amazon anymore.
2. Meh, probably if you did it on a large scale... On a single consumer scale, i doubt it.
3. fordrops you can just use amazon locker for amazon, if its in your area. For payment, prepaids are best, because if the refund falls through, you can try again by disputing th charge with your prepaid. (or if the refund goes through, you can double dip afterwards by disputing the payment after the product is replaced)

The only Amazon locker I ever had was inside some Indian convenience store. Do we not need to worry about cameras?

 

[ImposterJack]

The only Amazon locker I ever had was inside some Indian convenience store. Do we not need to worry about cameras?

im not going to talk about specifically where i olive, cause opsec ,but there are at least 20 amazon lockers within a mile o0f me.

 

[HoodRansom]

im not going to talk about specifically where i olive, cause opsec ,but there are at least 20 amazon lockers within a mile o0f me.

he above said, i feel like the profit margin is super thin here if youre paying a vendor to do this for you. refunds are not that hard to SE youself